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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Sep 12, 2012 8:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Dark Star - 3rd Best of '72?

http://archive.org/details/gd1972-09-10.sbd.lai.5679.shnf

This DS doesn't get the attention it deserves. My favorites change over time, but in a year chock full of amazing Dark Stars, this is currently my 3rd favorite of the year, behind 8/27 and 9/21.

The Fall '72 versions of DS and PITB are in a class of their own.

This post was modified by rdenirojb87 on 2012-09-12 15:21:46

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Sep 12, 2012 9:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dark Star - 3rd Best of '72?

Just curious. I know everyone's tastes are different. What is it in these three that makes them your favorite?

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Sep 12, 2012 10:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dark Star - 3rd Best of '72?

Pretty simple. At this point in time, I just enjoy listening to those 3 versions the most. I can re-listen to them several times, and still say “WOW!” each time. While I certainly think there are other versions on par with them, there's something about those 3 that strike me like the others don't. That's the best I can explain it. I don't really look for the most developed thematic jamming, or the tightest playing, just whatever strikes me as most interesting musically. Those 3 really do it for me right now, but I will likely have a different list a few months from now. I believe 8/27 will remain at the top though. I'll be listening to a lot of Fall '72 in the coming months, so I after re-listening to all those great Dark Stars, I may change my mind again.

What's your fav '72 DS?

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Sep 12, 2012 4:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dark Star - 3rd Best of '72?

I like your WOW factor. I don't know that I really have a favorite. I basically listen to the basic rotation that Dennis described (and other years) and spread them out so I don't remember any of them all that well. That helps my WOW process. :)

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Poster: RJ_Squirrel Date: Sep 12, 2012 6:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dark Star - 3rd Best of '72?

I'm writing in "9/24/72 Dark Star" for president.

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Poster: Edsel Date: Sep 12, 2012 11:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dark Star - 3rd Best of '72?

For '72, it is this one
http://archive.org/details/gd1972-11-13.aud.owsley.gems.105812.flac16

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Sep 12, 2012 9:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dark Star - 3rd Best of '72?

Third best of 1972?

That would obviously rank it among the very best renditions that the band has ever performed. It is a terrific Dark Star. Nice Phil solo followed by a very cool passage, and I like the very Twilight Zone-esque segment. But I'm not hearing developed enough thematic jamming to score this one that high.

I would certainly rank 4/8/72 and 5/11/72 way ahead of this rendition and I think the Dark Stars performed on 4/14, 8/21 and 9/27 are better as well. I might even rank 4/24, 5/4, 9/16, 10/18, 12/15 and the Hoffheinz Dark Star higher so I don't know if this one would crack my top ten for 1972, and thats why this is so much fun...

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Sep 12, 2012 10:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dark Star - 3rd Best of '72?

“That would obviously rank it among the very best renditions that the band has ever performed.”

Well, not if I include all the great renditions from prior to '72. Some great ones from '73 and '74 as well, though my favorites are mostly from '69 – '72.

4/8 is my 4th favorite right now. And though it doesn't reach the monumental heights of other Dark Stars, the one from 5/7 (Bickershaw), clocks in at #5 for me.

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Sep 12, 2012 7:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dark Star - 3rd Best of '72?

Funny I used to feel much stronger about this version, but it has fallen by the wayside for me lately. I definitely consider it a strong version, but certainly it doesn't even crack top 10 for me. I have been enjoying other fall '72 Stars much more, like 7/18, 8/24, 11/13, and 8/21, as Cliff referenced. 7/18 might just be the most underrated version of the year...it's so wonderful I'd be willing to put in my top 10 or possibly even top 5 without hesitation. The show as a whole is a bit uneven, but more people should know about that fantastic DS.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Sep 14, 2012 6:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dark Star - 3rd Best of '72?

"7/18 might just be the most underrated version of the year...it's so wonderful I'd be willing to put in my top 10 or possibly even top 5 without hesitation. The show as a whole is a bit uneven, but more people should know about that fantastic DS."

Agreed. I think there are other good parts of that show as well though, particularly PITB and NFA>GDTRFB>NFA

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Sep 12, 2012 3:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dark Star - 3rd Best of '72?

There are probably a dozen top-five Dark Stars from 1972...

9/10/72 is an outstanding show - it has an intense Playing in the Band, and Garcia's solo at the end of He's Gone is really excellent.
This Dark Star is also unique since David Crosby joins in on 3rd guitar after the verse, though he mostly stays in the background. (I think he was better-integrated on 12/31/72.)
It's a relatively busy Star, stays fast-moving with some changes of pace - no thematic jams really, but it also doesn't get really spacy; nice unexpected Phil solo before the verse, and they work themselves into a cool frenzy after the verse (though not as shredding as Tigers could be).
It falls down for me at the end, when it just kind of dribbles into the drum solo, and then...Jack Straw? So I find the last few minutes disappointing, an over-mellow conclusion to such an energetic Star.
(What's funny is, in the first-set Bird Song, as it ends you can also hear Weir trying to segue to Jack Straw, but the others ignore him that time.)